Friday, October 9, 2009

Plato Notes


Book I:

Pg 21.

343b

Justice/Injustice

Injustice rules the just

“The just man everywhere has less than the unjust man.” The unjust man has no morals, no limits.

Juvenal
“What I want-I take- let my will take the place of reasoned argument.”

Justice: virtue, prudent, good, knowledge, wise, happy

- the soul’s virture is to purse the good

Injustice: vice, thoughtless, bad, lack of knowledge, ignorant, wretched

Book II:

Pg. 35

Cityàfollow justiceàMust be led by guardians

The Guardians:

- Swift

- Strong

- Philosophical king

Speech=Logic/Reason

Most important subjects for the young:

o Gym for the body

o Music for the soul

“what I want I take, let my might take the place of reasoned argument” –Juvenal

Justice-virtue-prudent-good-knowledge-wise

Iinjustice-vice-thoughtful-bad-lack of knowledge-ignorant

Homer must not be accepted in the city

415a (94) book 3

Guardians-gold-wisdom-smallest %

Calculating (reason) Super Ego

Auxiliaries/soilders-silver-courage-strength

Desire (irrational)-courage ID

Farmers/merchants-bronze/iron

Spirit Ego

Moderation

All three working in harmony = just city

Book3:

Gods don’t rape, cheat, steal, lie

Book 4

106-> 428a

430a “don’t think we devised all that for any other purpose than that …”

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